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Discussion and survey on the corona virus

The morning post corona card is currently likely to be a magnet for visitors. Looks pretty scary, doesn't it?

The corona virus dominates the media and the minds of many people. Today we are trying to find out how the German Bitcoin scene thinks about it. We therefore ask you to join in the discussion and take part in a survey. Because nothing is as valuable as good data.

Because everyone is busy with the Corona virus and the associated major crisis anyway, we join in today. Let and discuss and talk. Tell me in the comments how you feel about the situation. You are welcome to refrain from reading the article and instead type your experience into the commet fields. In the following, I will explain my perception and combine this with survey fields.

Stay at home

It has now become the top civic duty to stay at home. The government has imposed “contact restrictions” and will face severe penalties if you object. Anyway, all events are canceled, pubs, restaurants, cultural institutions and most shops are closed. Many companies take forced leave or send their employees to their home office as far as possible. So most people have little choice but to curl up at home, watch Netflix and nibble hammered nuts.

For me everything is basically the same. I work in the home office anyway. Since my partner has to do this now, I have even more company per day than before. However, we go out less, meet fewer friends and relatives and attend fewer events. Of course we also hammered and bought groceries for about two weeks. Since there was nowhere more toilet paper, we ordered a large pack from an online shop for office supplies that we could use to supply the entire street.

By the way, I personally believe that it is good for the world to go down for a while and stay at home. If squatting for a few weeks breaks a relationship, it could be the beginning of a better life for everyone involved.

Do you know corona infected people?

I would be extremely interested in whether you have corona infected people in your immediate and distant surroundings and how the disease went with them.

In my environment a colleague of a friend's brother was tested positive after a ski holiday. I don't know anything about the course of the disease. Since the friend's brother shares the table in the office with her, he also had to be quarantined at home, but was not tested. He reports about cough and tiredness, but nothing that one would actually talk about a lot.

Does the situation affect you economically?

Market prices have plummeted more than ever. The exit restrictions – and worries before that – have reduced or almost completely destroyed sales in many industries. For example the travel industry, gastronomy or non-vital retail. While short-time work and emergency loans can prevent the worst consequences so far in Germany, unemployment seems to be exploding in other countries. Does that affect you too?

I know some examples of people who are currently losing income for a few months, indirectly those who have lost their jobs and many who are worried about their jobs. Especially a long shutdown of the economy is very threatening for many.

The validity of the numbers

That may be the most difficult and also the most controversial question. The majority of Germans recently became corona experts and can rattle down epidemological data and measures while they sleep. I am one of them. There is a wild spectrum of information on mortality and the need for intensive care beds per case. These numbers seem so confused to me that I'm afraid it can only go wrong if they are used as the basis for decisions.

Is the danger underestimated or overestimated?

An example of unreliable data is the mortality rate. My impression is that many think that if you divide the number of deaths by those who tested positive, you have a valid mortality rate per infection. So currently in Germany 172 / 34. 000, in France 1. 100 / 22. 000, in Italy 6. 800 / 69. 000. That equates to 0.5, 5 or 9.8 percent. These huge differences alone should show everyone that the method is worthless. As far as I can see, the current number of “infected” only says something about the number of tests.

The unknown number of those who are or have been infected is unknown. Tests from Iceland indicate that 1 percent of the population is already infected; there are epidemologists who believe that 1.9 million people were infected in Wuhan, China; Oxford researchers even speculate that more than 50 percent of the UK population is or has been infected. Such values, of course, enormously relativize the rate of deaths or people in need of intensive care.

On the other hand, there are also many deaths that have not been tested for corona, which is why there can also be an undisclosed number of deaths. All of this makes the information situation very opaque.

The damage caused by the measures

The stock markets had the biggest crisis in decades, worse than 2008. At the same time, the jobs of hundreds of thousands of people in Germany are threatened, entire industries could be doomed if the “contact restriction” continues for several months, and the states' aid measures risk that we will all end up paying with inflation.

It may sound cynical, but you can very well compare health and economy. Poverty harms the health system, unemployment makes you sick, and the absence of leisure activities such as the sports club, the gym, the hiking group or the yoga round are not exactly good for public health either. The dead, who demand an economic crisis and the reduction of common leisure activities, are not as direct as those killed by a virus, but they do exist.

However, there are no concrete figures here, such as X deaths per percent of GDP loss. So we have two risks – corona and economy – where we act as a society out of the dark. The danger of doing more damage than preventing through hasty actionism seems enormous to me.

The dangers for freedom and democracy

In the Corona crisis, the citizens of western democracies have to accept considerable restrictions on freedom of trade, travel, movement and assembly. In some countries, such as Spain and Italy, one can speak of a barracking of the citizens, while the border closings temporarily destroy decades of European integration. At the same time, there is a risk of data protection being weakened if authorities want to query the whereabouts of citizens using mobile phone data, and there are signs that freedom of expression is also threatened if politicians think about cracking down on “fakenews” and social media such as Twitter and the medium willingly bow to this pressure. There is a lot to lose.

I find it rather worrying that this is due to emotional images of Italian clinics and statistics that most – including myself – cannot evaluate and which many experts consider to be insufficiently valid. Fear is a bad advisor for decisions, especially when it comes to liberties.

If you have worked your way up to here: Thank you! I am extremely excited to see what comes out of this survey. And if you still have the time and desire – leave your opinion in the comments.